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Re: Tadpole Madtoms (was Re: hello? is anyone there/here?)	Broken Tiger
	Jan 12, 2001 21:49 PST

Lots o' issues in you post, Wright. First, I would LOVE a catfish study group here in the area. I have many catfish, will end up with more and operate mostly in the dark. The catfish list is somewhat useful as is planet catfish, but real ppl would be so much nicer. Second, I know a few ppl who do US catfish, from my goldfish list, actually and someon on the catfish list was working with Mad Toms--Jools? Shane? Third, out ponds are inside, the Koi and cats in the garage in a swimming pool adn the fry in the downstairs study in a wading pool. We are not advanced pond keeper and are just starting to get our footing on that. It does stay cool, tho. Summer never get too hot and the catfish pond is in the mid to low fifties now. I don't know if a freeze is required for spawning, but I bet not. I am very interested in the Mad Tom project, but nowhere near ready yet. Besides, my Sig. Other would commit mayham at more fish. But let's stay in touch on this. If you want, I can check with the cold water catfish ppl I know and try to pick their brains. Finally, I sorta expected a catch all list when I joined and was dissappointed that so much of it was devoted to the SFSA. troi Wright Huntley wrote:   Hi troi and all,   Your interest in catfish brings up a serious question. Do you know how to breed any of our native catfishes? There is considerable interest in the breeder's club of the Native Fishes Conservancy (NFC) to determine all the breeding habits of the Madtoms. [snip] They need cooler conditions than I can   provide, I'm pretty sure. Someone who does Koi and Goldfish would probably know what I mean. I currently have a few Tadpole Madtoms of indeterminant sex that I would be happy to pass on to anyone who would like to study these guys, determine how they can be bred in captivity, and report the results (if any). If anyone was interested in serious work on them, I'm sure I can get more starting stock, too, perhaps from somewhat warmer water than these (Idaho). Tadpole Madtoms (*Noturus gyrinus*) range from well up into Canada (Hudson's Bay) clear to the Gulf of Mexico and down into Florida. [snip]   One big condition! They must never be released into the wild except under F&WL guidance. Keeping in a pond is risky, if it could ever flood. I don't dare keep them in a pond outside, here in Fremont, for example. They would be a potential threat to our native 3-spine Sticklebacks if they washed into a storm drain.

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